This may create cooling issues, since the low-end machines are cooled by a fan on the motor shaft. Soft-starting motor features full-time … This product allows you to choose and set your speed or range, however it is suited while you are working with your wood. Forum discussion: Re: DW660 Mods . The equipment is of one and a quarter peak horsepower router that draws … Durable DEWALT 1.25 HP fixed base corded router is ideal for carpentry projects like making grooves for joints and decorative mouldings. There’s a ton of “right hand rule” going on when you spin one up…. Depending on the router, it is possible to go as low as 5K RPM. These instructions are for the D26204K bought in Australia. Make sure you note which one is positive and which is negative. STEP 5: I removed the router switch but really its fine to leave it in place. The DEWALT DWP611 compact router features a 1-1/4 peak HP motor.Compared to its competitor’s models, this motor delivers significantly more power to help you accomplish your wood tasks as productively as possible.You will be able to better manage the tool by … Thanks again! STEP1: remove the DW611 from the SO3 mount. The Amazon router controller also does not work with soft start or variable speed routers. I’ll try doubling that tonight and see what happens. A spindle upgrade is easily more than $150, the mount has to be changed out, and things need to be realigned. and Looking for the speed control pot specs, SO3: XXL Mega-Enclosure and Dust Collection, SO3 XXL Enclosure Upgrades - computer shelf, control panel labels, gas springs, SO3: How to mod the Dewalt DW611 for remote speed, light and power control, http://www.amazon.com/OHM-Linear-Taper-Rotary-Potentiometer/dp/B00X73YUE4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00. So, how would you feel about connecting your 611 to one of these “cheap” speed controllers in a similar fashion? It has a voltage rating of 120 V and an amp rating of 7.0 amps. I need to machine plastic, and the 16,000rpm minimum on the 611 is way, way too fast for what I’m doing. Its not good practice to run 120VAC in the same track as low voltage wiring because a short could cause what you think is a low voltage line to become high voltage. But, this is detailed in the installation instructions for the SuperPID, which also replaces the Dewalt’s internal controller in exchange for an RPM feedback control system. This means that it can maintain the best motor speed through the whole time you are making the cuts. For some, that is a lot of bear and SuperPID is a very viable option to gain flexibility… especially the lower RPM range. No, it will not. And it’s over $100 less than a SuperPID. The Dewalt611 can be modified with a few cut and soldered wires to no longer be soft start; the internal controller can be bypassed. I didn’t use “the book” and ran them all together. Features Durable 1.25HP motor delivers the power to meet the toughest applications Variable speed control feature enables bit speed to be optimized for changing applications Soft-starting motor features full-time electronic feedback that maintains motor speed through the cut Dual LED's and clear sub-base ensure maximum dewalt dwp611 reviews Let me help you to find out for which factors, you really need to buy DEWALT DWP611. Thanks again! This forum is the best!! How did you wire that up? I’ve jogged my machine with the router running and didn’t see any EMI issues. This is used for closed loop feedback so the system can add power under load to maintain the rpm setting. http://community.carbide3d.com/t/dewalt-dw611-info-and-looking-for-the-speed-control-pot-specs/1894 You will need a DeWalt 611 spindle mount from Inventables to mount it, as the the DWP611 is a much larger … Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Router Speed Controller for Dewalt DWP 611, modifying the Dewalt for external speed control. What is your feed rate? Sorry to bring up such a old thread, But the led’s from the router are only two wires. But yea i just hooked it to a 9v to check it and it does work. There’s a metal tab that holds the wires in place. Lol, it is technically going to be yours before long when you burn the brushes out of it. Variable speed control feature enables bit speed to be optimized for changing applications. A red and a black, one from each led. Remote power control. Make sure you check with them before buying one. The advantage of this mod is that it’s essentially free vs $150+ for SuperPID. Such variable speeds make it ideal for versatility. The router has an integrated hall sensor that reads a magnet on the end of the motor shaft. STEP2: remove the 4 star head screws from the top and one from under the top The DWP611PK 1-1/4 HP max torque variable speed compact router Combo kit with LED's has a 1-1/4 HP motor to deliver power for the toughest applications, and variable speed control for optimal bit speed in each application. Allows quick and easy bit and base changes. 9 Likes. (for the SO3 XXL) 28’ of 12 gage stranded wire for power wire extension, 56’ of small gage stranded wire for the LED light and Potentiometer extensions. The DWP611 has built-in soft start and speed control. I know. This isn’t good when you are trying to maintain cut quality. I’m going to run mains power to an E-stop which will feed router and SO3 power. Depending on your wire size you may have to grind out the channel for the wires to accommodate the larger wire bundle. You don’t have to cut the OEM power cord but I replaced it with my own wiring so I could fit it all into the cable tracks. EDIT: Heeey, that Amazon speed controller even goes as far as to claim “full power and torque at all speeds.” Decent reviews, too. It allows you to go down to 5,000 rpm without losing torque as well as use g-code to control the router. The advantage of Super ID is being able to drop to 5000 rpms vs.16000 which allows more cutter options. View online or download Dewalt DWP611 User Manual, Instruction Manual The speed control commands speeds from 16k rpm to 27k rpm. I think it costs around $150. STEP 8: Connect your power wires to a power switch. The OEM cord is too fat to fit into the tracks. The lights were brighter up to 9VDC but I don’t know how high you can go before it shortens their life. Excellent project. There is also electronic feedback to maintain the overall performance of the motor. Variable speed control enables bit speed to be optimized for applications; ... Can you use .50 shank router bits on a DW 611 pk combo set router Asked by Rollo December 18, 2019. I just don’t really want to hack apart the D 611 I am using as it is “technically” not mine. Free and easy are always a popular when there’s no downside. Rick, it doesn’t work with them because a “soft start” router has an internal speed/torque controller. Feel free to post comments and your own builds and variations. It also includes LED lights in the bottom that turn on when the router is on. According to data gathered, the DeWalt DCW600B‘s housing material is made of plastic. If the power requirements are 6 volts DC, then you would connect the positive side of your supply to the RED wire and the ground/negative side to the BLACK wire. Variable speed control feature provides 16,000 - 27,000-RPM which allows you to optimize bit speed to suit the application. I’m wondering how significant a loss it would be for the router to lose it’s internal soft-start controller in exchange for the use of one of these speed controllers. I am new and want to make sure I don’t go breaking all my bits as I am learning right off the bat. I had to do that. Voltage and No-Load Speed. It allows you to control your router between 16.000-27,000 rpm. There’s no need for an optical feedback since the router provides closed loop feedback itself. Bob, can you share a wiring diagram for your Pid setup running your Dewalt. This router speed controller on Amazon claims “0 to Full Adjustment,” and if the harbor freight does the same it’d be an option, albeit sloppy. Do you always keep your Dewalt 611 speed at 1? The lowest speed of 16,000RPM might be too high for some people. I like the subject option as well since it’s mostly free. Soft-starting motor features full-time electronic feedback that maintains motor speed through the cut. I guess before I start tearing my router to pieces I aught to do a bit more experimentation with feedrates. It looked at a glance to be 2 led’s epoxied into place with one wire each. Features precise depth adjustments and fast, easy motor pack removal for bit and base changes. Features precise depth adjustments and fast, easy motor pack removal for … 2. I ran the LED wires across a 6VDC power supply and across the control panel switch. The Dewalt DW611 router that is an option offered by C3D has built in closed loop speed control so its a nice router for the price. You might want to watch a YouTube video about how to desolder components. It’s been awhile since I read this write up, could it also be used to slow the Dewalt down below the 16,000 minimum? If you see any issues feel free to post corrections. Brand: Dewalt. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to put heat shrink tubing over them also. I need to do precise detail engraving into acrylic. It pretty much stays close to the speed you set it to even when under load. My feedrate with a 1/32 2 flute fishtail bit in white styrene sheet is .015 doc and 20 ipm. he led’s from the router are only two wires. Cut the connector off of the red and black LED wires and solder small gage stranded wire onto them. My impression is that the Super PID will maintain torque at the lower RPMs where a variac and other passive systems will not. I hope someone gets to enjoy this mod with me. I had my 611 sitting at a 1 and used a feedrate of 30 or 35 IPM, if I remember correctly. This tool also features SHOCKS Active Vibration Control® technology from DEWALT which reduces vibration felt by the user. You can have the light on when the router is off which makes zeroing and bit changes easier. ChadShelby December 10, 2016, 3:36am #2. When I engrave with a v-bit, it is .005 doc and 60 ipm. This mod is essentially free other than the cost of a 5k linear pot ( a few $ and the wire needed). Just leave it turned on. SuperPID provides a close loop for all routers. Features precise depth adjustments and fast, easy motor pack removal for bit and base changes. Because I know you nerds like watching things being made, as I do, here's a time lapse of an engrave on acrylic that I just did with a diamond drag bit. The DEWALT DWP611 ROUTER has a variable speed control along with a starting motor facility that is capable of maintaining motor speed through the cut with full-time electronic feedback. Which i was unable to do. Connect your pot wires to a 5,000 ohm linear resistor. I could bump it up to 40, 50, or more, but I’m concerned about accuracy. Feel free to ask if you have any other questions. You can set the RPM to a known value. I bought the EStop and switches on Amazon. Just like any other model, having variable speed control in a router tool helps a lot. I know. Variable speed control feature provides up to 27,000-RPC, and allows you to optimize bit speed to suit the application If we discuss the speed, this router has a set of variable speed. Thanks, I was able to take a better look at it last night. Its not hard but knowing a few little tricks will make it less frustrating with less chance of overheating other components on the control board. Dewalt DWP611 Pdf User Manuals. I’ve considered that, but I also wonder what the lowest speed out of one of these cheap, dumb controllers might be. If you choose to cut the power cord cut it close tot he control board so you can run the new wires through the strain relief. As a corded power tool, the DeWalt DWP611 is more powerful than the DCW600B. dewalt611.png 815×516 220 KB. Personally, I'd probably get a repair estimate, and if it's anywhere close to the cost of a new 611, then I'd replace it. The Dewalt DW611 router that is an option offered by C3D has built in closed loop speed control so its a nice router for the price. I couldn't find a video on replacing the speed control module, but if ordered, it should be fairly easy to install. There should not be one wire per LED, but a single power and ground for all LEDs. Probably true. This one starts from 16,000 to 27,000RPM. Jong! Having control of the spindle lights and being able to run the router power cord through the cable tracks are bonuses. This picture shows the underside of the control card and more wiring. I don’t know if a SuperPID will work with a router that already has closed loop speed control. Durable 1.25 horsepower motor delivers the power to meet the toughest applications. I’ve also seen the Rockler router speed controller mentioned in this forum before. If I decide to spend money on an upgrade it will be for a real spindle with a VFD. Variable speed control feature enables bit speed to be optimized for changing applications. If I decide to spend money on an upgrade it will be for a real spindle with a VFD. Basically the LED is completely electrically disconnected from the router. I haven’t seen anyone attempt to use an ordinary 120V motor speed with their Dewalt 611. I believe that this is the 240V equivalent of … No Load Speed range 16,000-27,000rpm. I thought it would be better to post it as a rough overview than to not post anything. I’m doing styrene sheet on 1 and so far so good. The corded version’s is made of aluminum. It should be easy to set the correct speed depending on the material you are cutting. This is not unlike what SuperPID has one do - except that it adds an optical pick up and provides additional RPM control. The DWP611PK 1-1/4 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router Combo Kit with LED's has a 1-1/4 HP motor to deliver power for the toughest applications, and variable speed control for optimal bit speed in each application. No more 1-6 setting. STEP4: Solder small gage stranded wires into the two holes shown. I have a Dewalt + SuperPID. Durable 1.25 HP motor delivers the power to meet the toughest applications. It can also cause EMI issues. Soldering iron, solder, flux, wire strippers, etc… and some level of soldering skills. I put this post together in about two hours so its not refined but it will give you the idea. STEP 7 (optional): If you have an enclosure you can twist each set of wires using a drill after it exits the enclosure. No Load Speed range 16,000-27,000rpm Soft-starting motor features full-time electronic feedback that maintains motor speed through the cut Dual LED's and clear sub-base ensure maximum visibility in operation The red is positive. RickPeterson November 10, 2015, 7:13pm #11. The speed control on the Dewalt is very good at maintaining RPM under load so unless you need lower RPMs you don’t need a seperate controller. I can’t say how well the Dewalt or any other router holds it RPM well under load. Users have measured the actual speeds reached at different number settings: http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3918. The third leg of the pot was unused so you don’t need to do anything with it. Thank you! Thanks JDM. To install you bypass much of the router electronics and install an optical sensor(as Mike mentioned above). Looks like a lot of fun. FYI. 360icon December 1, 2016, 5:13pm #1. This will certainly void your router warranty and if you make a mistake it could ruin your router control card. I also think that the soft start is easier on the X & Z axis assemblies. *Make sure the router is unplugged before you start! The engrave time was actually 90 minutes. LED light and clear plastic fixed base provide superior bit visibility. Variable Speed . Specs: Amps 7.0Amps HP 1.25HP No Load Speed 16,000 - 27,000rpm Collet Diameter 1/4" Plunge Stroke 1.5" Depth Stop Base Dimension 4" Spindle Lock 12 position Tool Weight 4.1lbs Features: • Durable 1.25HP motor delivers the power to meet the toughest applications So far I’ve been able to do everything I’ve tried pretty quickly with this setup. You may ask why I didn’t just use a router speed controller. Rick, it doesn’t work with them because a “soft start” router has an internal speed/torque controller. I posted a picture labeled "very rough schematic " early in the thread that shows it. The SuperPID is obviously the ideal solution, but the price tag is intimidating. I believe the LEDs must be wired with the proper polarity or they will burn out so make sure you measure that polarity before disconnecting them from the router. Offers lasting durability. I found one here but looking for a better alternative; http://www.alliedelec.com/honeywell-50070974-002-01/70357937/. It also includes LED lights in the bottom that turn on when the router is on. Since the DW660 is single-speed, some users have used a router speed control unit, such as the MLCS 9400 Standard Duty Router Speed Control to slow it down. A few photos would be nice as well. That’s much easier… A router speed controller will adjust speed remotely but because of the way it controls speed you lose torque as you lower the speed so as the load increases the router rpm drops off significantly. Closed loop should do a good job. If you think of steps that are missing just let me know and I’ll fill them in as best I can. No more reaching to turn the router on. I could probably have jacked up the feed rate but I had time and didn't want to risk quality for speed. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, SO3: DeWalt DW611 info. It is pricey and a bit of a pain to install, but it works very well. DeWalt DWP611 1.25 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router With LED's. How did you wire that up? STEP 6: Run all six wires (2 power, 2 pot, 2 light) through the strain relief. This controller is not compatible with the 611 without taking it apart and modifying some wiring. The DeWalt DWP611 is a 110v/220v handheld router that your simply remove from its base and insert it into the X-Carve as a spindle. The LEDs may burn out quickly at 9v. You don’t want a lot of instantaneous torque tweaking your carriage. I jady_d-.hello@hotmail.com trying finding this but never could, again thank you! I can’t remember now if 6VDC is what I measured going to the LEDs from the router or if I just hooked them up to a power supply and turned up the voltage until they got as bright as I needed. Clean cable management. Proceed at your own risk. That makes the wires look much better and they are easier to handle. There are instructions scattered around the internet for modifying the Dewalt for external speed control. Soft-starting motor features full-time electronic feedback that maintains motor speed through the cut. I’d definitely be interested in slowing it down a bit. If had to do it all over again I probably wouldn’t change a thing, happy customer. Remote RPM setting. The DWP611PK router allows you to vary the speed from 16,000 to 27,000RPM. I bought it mostly for the low speed options (5,000-30,000RPM range). Connect the LED wires to a power switch fed by a 6VDC power supply. It pretty much stays close to the speed you set it to even when under load. DeWALT D26204K/DWP611 SuperPID conversion This brief is about converting the DeWALT router to be controlled by the SuperPID closed loop speed controller. The LEDs are DC driven, not AC like the router. Last Refresh: Tue Dec 22 2020 15:27:32 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time) I would certainly go for a spindle when possible. Independent remote light control. Features Durable 1.25HP motor delivers the power to meet the toughest applications Variable speed control feature enables bit speed to be optimized for changing applications Soft-starting motor features full-time electronic feedback that maintains motor speed through the cut Dual LED's and clear sub-base ensure maximum To do so, you remove the closed loop control. I couldn't find a replacement motor with controller either. Speed control . The Dewalt611 can be modified with a few cut and soldered wires to no longer be soft start; the internal controller can be bypassed. Product Specifications It was dismissed because it isn’t compatible with Soft-Start routers, like the 611, but it should be usable with a modification similar to the SuperPID installation. So I was looking into the super PID and was wondering if anyone has connected one with The actual CARBIDE 3D board from the SO3 to control the speed, on and OFF from the GRBL software ? I’m not sure but it may blow out the LED’s if you connect them with reverse polarity. I have the SO3, the dewalt 611 and want to automize the way I control my router. Power and Performance. What is Included (1) DeWALT DWP611 1.25 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router . Turned all the way to Low, it might actually shut off the router, enabling you to slowly manually ramp the speed up to avoid that violent start scenario. DeWalt 611 Variable Speed Chart. The DWP611 has you covered in this regard given its variable speed output of between 16,000-27,000 RPM, and this is selectable via six different settings using the … Pull the top off carefully to reveal the following…. The DWP611 1-1/4 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router with LED's has a 1-1/4 HP motor to deliver power for the toughest applications, and variable speed control for optimal bit speed in each application. The bit has to be sharp or it definitely gums up. STEP3: Remove the OEM speed control potentiometer. But, it has a wire running around the bottom between the two that was difficult to see. If you want to go by the book you would run the low voltage LED and pot wires out of a separate hole and not place the 120VAC power wires in the cable track. In this case, common convention is that the RED wire is Power (VCC) and the BLACK wire is ground. The DWP611PK 1-1/4 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router Combo Kit with LED's has a 1-1/4 HP motor to deliver power for the toughest applications, and variable speed control for optimal bit speed in each application. But yea i just hooked it to a 9v to check it and it does work. A red and a black, one from each led. This is a great feature. There is a PID feedback controller (mods, feel free to insert link here if you want) called Super PID. You can run the router power and control wires through the SO3 cable tracks instead of having them floating around above the machine. Guys! X-Carve. I was looking at the led assembly that was removed from a router that had a split shaft that i had to tear apart to try to save my precise bits Collet and nut. Being able to control the speed of a router will make it versatile. Here’s a plot showing rpm vs. pot resistance setting…. I’m not great and it worked for me. In this post I’ll show you how you can hack the router to provide the following benefits: I’m working on my control panel now but here’s what I plan to have in the end…, Here’s what the final install looks like…, This is a very rough schematic to show how its wired now…. They might go from 1 to 6 and even have a maximum range between 16,000 RPM to 27000 RPM. Variable speed control feature enables bit speed to be optimized for changing applications. Oh wow, maybe I have just been babying my system at 30 ipm. Where did you find it? Combine power and performance with comfort and convenience by choosing this DEWALT Compact Router with Plunge Base and Bag. 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